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Lynn to take ‘big step forward’ with ferry launch

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Posted: Monday, May 5, 2014 3:00 am

LYNN — The naysayers said it would never happen but a Lynn-to-Boston commuter ferry service is set to start May 19.

James Cowdell, executive director of the Economic Development and Industrial Corporation, said, “EDIC took a project that many people said would never happen and now we’re two weeks away from a maiden voyage.”

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  • royalrooter posted at 5:13 pm on Sun, May 11, 2014.

    royalrooter Posts: 1

    The ferry business will not last in Lynn. Too many better alternatives to get into town. We've been waiting for the Blue Line for 40 years as that would do more for economic developement than any other infrastructure expense could ever do. The common thread in cities around Boston that thrive is the T. The sooner this happens the better off we'll all be. Problem has always been the politicians and career city employees like the Gaeta's, Cowdell's who have never worked a day in their lives in the private sector. They don't have a clue how to run a business or how to expand business in this city. THey only know how to take from the taxpayers and we own them cradle to grave. Time for new blood to come in and clean house and start over. Maybe then Lynn will become a great city once again.

  • LivinLynn posted at 8:30 am on Wed, May 7, 2014.

    LivinLynn Posts: 296

    The EDIC should work on getting the Commuter rail fares reduced for Lynn residents. If we can't have the Blue line we should at least be able to pay Blue Line prices.

  • Chris R posted at 7:47 am on Wed, May 7, 2014.

    Chris R Posts: 233

    Mathematical correction - not 3 million, but $301 thousand (one tenth), using the stated fare of $7 and multiplying it by 43,000 riders

  • Evyrex posted at 1:43 pm on Tue, May 6, 2014.

    Evyrex Posts: 2

    Congratulations to the EDIC. I agree with jimd's comment and hope it is a great success for Lynn and the continued development of the waterfront. Let's all give it a chance.

  • downtownresident83 posted at 11:33 am on Tue, May 6, 2014.

    downtownresident83 Posts: 66

    I'm more concerned about it being in a car crash like the casino boat!

  • downtownresident83 posted at 9:49 pm on Mon, May 5, 2014.

    downtownresident83 Posts: 66

    Seth, I don't think anyone here is saying that public transportation shouldn't be subsidized. They are saying that the ferry is a dumb idea. The Salem ferry had a little over $43,000 riders in 2012 (most recent stats I could find). That's about $3 million. I have no idea how expensive this thing is to operate but Lynn will be lucky if they get 10,000 riders per year. There are too many different modes of transportation available already. I'm sure you have stood at the commuter rail station during rush hour. There are maybe 40 people on the platform at most. The MBTA garage is only about 21% full on weekdays (per the MBTA website). This ferry doesn't have a chance of succeeding.

    The EDIC should work on bringing the Blue Line to Lynn. The politicians love to have ribbon cutting ceremonies come election time for it.....yet nothing ever happens.

  • ahoomp posted at 7:29 pm on Mon, May 5, 2014.

    ahoomp Posts: 74

    I hope they do a better job maintaining that boat with the taxpayer subsidized money than they do on the roads, or it will sink before too long, Seth [wink]

  • Chris R posted at 7:26 pm on Mon, May 5, 2014.

    Chris R Posts: 233

    My comment was mostly to remind people that "government money" isn't "free money", it's our money.

    The price tag on this seems rather high, though, when I think about the number of people that will use it. Time will tell. Like I stated, I hope it is successful.

    Personally, I would rather see the Blue Line extended, which despite many promises, will never happen. At least Medford will be seeing the Green Line extended there, in addition to the Orange Line and Commuter Rail stops that they already have (yes, my exuberance is sarcasm).

  • downtownresident83 posted at 12:20 pm on Mon, May 5, 2014.

    downtownresident83 Posts: 66

    Almost $8 million? There is ZERO return on investment on this fiasco because it only takes away from MBTA ridership. EDIC should be ashamed of themselves. Nobody is going to ride this thing and they will continue to beg for handouts to keep it afloat.

  • redrock posted at 12:15 pm on Mon, May 5, 2014.

    redrock Posts: 3

    Huge waste of money. This thing won't last three years.

  • mediaseth posted at 11:25 am on Mon, May 5, 2014.

    mediaseth Posts: 119

    Our roads are highly subsidized. Why are people so opposed to subsidizing other modes of transport, then? We couldn't have affordable transit of any form at actual cost.

  • LivinLynn posted at 9:47 am on Mon, May 5, 2014.

    LivinLynn Posts: 296

    Granted this is just a pilot program, but I already am puzzled by the schedule. Two trips from Lynn in the morning. The 8:00 trip makes sense since it will give 9 to 5ers adequate time to debark and get to their downtown jobs, but the 6:30 is the problem. It arrives Boston at 7:oo, too late for the 7-3 shift, too early for the 9-5ers. Has anyone done a study, probably based on the Hingham Ferry, that indicates how many people would use the 6:30 ferry? The only rush-hour return trip is at 5:45PM. Again Ok for the 9-5ers, but what about all those people who took the 6:30AM boat? are they going to wait from 3:00, or 4:00 for a 5:45 boat?

  • Chris R posted at 6:46 am on Mon, May 5, 2014.

    Chris R Posts: 233

    I hope the return on investment is there for the taxpayers of the state and country, as that is where the money came from.

    If all the money from 1000 fares a day, 7 days a week, was collected to repay the taxpayers, it would take 3 years to pay them back. Of course, it will take longer, as employees need to be paid (for life, with pensions) and there are general operating expenses, including maintenance.

    Don't get me wrong, I hope it works out, but I just want to make sure that everyone understands how OUR $7.65 million dollars is being spent, and how long it would take to "get it back", without interest.

    Remember,whenever you see "government" money being spent, realize that it is OUR money that is being spent. These are your tax dollars.

  • jimd posted at 4:51 am on Mon, May 5, 2014.

    jimd Posts: 115

    Great job by the EDIC and the whole Lynn delegation bringing this project to fruition.Hope and pray it finally brings some economic development to the waterfront.Again great job!!!!!!!